OpenZaak Product Steering Meeting - 21 October 2020, 15:00 to 16:00
Meeting link: https://meet.community.publiccode.net/OpenZaakProductSteeringGroup
Mailinglist: https://lists.publiccode.net/mailman/postorius/lists/openzaak-discuss.lists....
Slack Channel: https://samenorganiseren.slack.com/archives/CT6UH711Q https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#AttendingAttending
- Felix Faasen, Foundation for Public Code - Alba Roza, Foundation for Public Code - Jan Ainali, Foundation for Public Code - Joeri Bekker, Maykin Media - Niels Lindeboom, Dimpact - Hugo ter Doest, Dimpact - Silvion Moesan, OPEN.satisfaction - Olav Allema, Contezza - Tahir Malik, Contezza - Jolanda van de Kooij (emailed g.vandennoort@exxellence.nl) - Peter Moen, Exxcellence - Lazo Bozarov, Gemeente Utrecht (invited late)
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#AgendaAgenda
1. Agenda 2. Actions from previous meeting 3. Discuss mission, vision and scope 4. Future features and roadmap 5. Evaluate governance/future agenda 6. New or changing members 7. Any other thoughts members want to bring in
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#NotesNotes https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#1-Agenda1. Agenda https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#2-Actions-from-previous-meeting2. Actions from previous meeting
ActionResponsibleDue date 1. Ask steering group for representatives in Product Group, post in the CommonGround Niels, Joeri October 21st, 2020 2. Create draft pull request on GOVERNANCE.MD http://governance.md/ members Peter & Joeri October 21st, 2020 3. Create Mission & Vision Draft on OpenZaak product Hugo October 21st, 2020
1. Invite Edwin/Rita from Delft for this group 2. See: https://github.com/open-zaak/open-zaak/pull/746/files?short_path=b60c6a9#dif... - All attendees agreed 3. Hugo will do this for next time.
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#3-Discuss-mission-vision-and-scope3. Discuss mission, vision and scope
Notes from all attending members, as a guideline for the draft document.
- Open Zaak product can be used by public organizations, to be open source so everyone can use it. The product is based on zaakgericht werken. - Scoping: What does it mean: Zaakgericht werken (ZGW). Is it limited to ZGW, or extend to “related” to ZGW. - Scoping: Maybe not only limit to ZGW - Also other suppliers should be able to use it, implement and contribute - Follow the national API standards for case-oriented working (ZGW API’s) developed by VNG Realisatie - We are (among) the first users of the standards and we need to propose changes to the standards if needed. - As a mission: We are offering municipalities a solution for ZGW. - “Laagdrempelige” solution in both tech, documentation, service (desk) - Mission: Have a “golden-record” (one single truth) within the organization
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#4-Future-features-and-roadmap4. Future features and roadmap
From the technical steering team:
- Post-installation configuration - i-Navigator (and others) support - Better Catalogus management interface - Improve archiving parameters integration - Implement password reset functionality - Provide selectielijst on NLX - Update the API versions - Add klantinteractie APIs (or not) - Bring to core municipality group and get feedback - Allow for “lokale verorderingen” (to the standard) - Fully implement Opschorten functionality - Implement a Search engine (Elasticsearch/SOLR) - Bring to core municipality group and get feedback
Additions from the product steering team:
- No additonal items provided
Suggestion to decide on priority: https://www.scaledagileframework.com/wsjf/
What should we do with this list? https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#5-Evaluate-governancefuture-agenda5. Evaluate governance/future agenda
- Nothing discussed due to time.
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#6-New-or-changing-members6. New or changing members
- Added Rita Berghuis, Delft - rberghuis@delft.nl
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#7-Any-other-thoughts-members-want-to-bring-in7. Any other thoughts members want to bring in
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Next meeting: November 18, 2020 -
For next agenda: - Budget - Should we communicate back to the core group - What should we do with the roadmap items? -
Tahir will chair the next meeting
https://hackmd.io/_o_N4lI1SRGrCL0g7GNs7Q?both#New-actionsNew actions ActionResponsibleDue date 1. Create Mission & Vision Draft on OpenZaak product Hugo November 18, 2020 2. Invite Delft Joeri November 18, 2020
Hoi Hugo, wil je me toevoegen aan Slack Channel met account tahir.malik@contezza.nl
Dank,
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From: Joeri Bekker via openzaak-discuss openzaak-discuss@lists.publiccode.net Sent: woensdag 21 oktober 2020 16:13 To: openzaak-discuss@lists.publiccode.net Cc: Joeri Bekker joeri.bekker@maykinmedia.nl Subject: [OpenZaak-discuss] Open Zaak product steering group meeting 2020-10-21 notes
OpenZaak Product Steering Meeting - 21 October 2020, 15:00 to 16:00
Meeting link: https://meet.community.publiccode.net/OpenZaakProductSteeringGroup
Mailinglist: https://lists.publiccode.net/mailman/postorius/lists/openzaak-discuss.lists....
Slack Channel: https://samenorganiseren.slack.com/archives/CT6UH711Q
Attending
* [ ]Felix Faasen, Foundation for Public Code * [X]Alba Roza, Foundation for Public Code * [ ]Jan Ainali, Foundation for Public Code * [X]Joeri Bekker, Maykin Media * [ ]Niels Lindeboom, Dimpact * [X]Hugo ter Doest, Dimpact * [X]Silvion Moesan, OPEN.satisfaction * [ ]Olav Allema, Contezza * [X]Tahir Malik, Contezza * [X]Jolanda van de Kooij (emailed g.vandennoort@exxellence.nlmailto:g.vandennoort@exxellence.nl) * [ ]Peter Moen, Exxcellence * [ ]Lazo Bozarov, Gemeente Utrecht (invited late)
Agenda
1. Agenda 2. Actions from previous meeting 3. Discuss mission, vision and scope 4. Future features and roadmap 5. Evaluate governance/future agenda 6. New or changing members 7. Any other thoughts members want to bring in
Notes 1. Agenda 2. Actions from previous meeting Action Responsible Due date 1. Ask steering group for representatives in Product Group, post in the CommonGround Niels, Joeri October 21st, 2020 2. Create draft pull request on GOVERNANCE.MDhttp://governance.md/ members Peter & Joeri October 21st, 2020 3. Create Mission & Vision Draft on OpenZaak product Hugo October 21st, 2020
1. Invite Edwin/Rita from Delft for this group 2. See: https://github.com/open-zaak/open-zaak/pull/746/files?short_path=b60c6a9#dif...
* All attendees agreed
1. Hugo will do this for next time.
3. Discuss mission, vision and scope
Notes from all attending members, as a guideline for the draft document.
* Open Zaak product can be used by public organizations, to be open source so everyone can use it. The product is based on zaakgericht werken. * Scoping: What does it mean: Zaakgericht werken (ZGW). Is it limited to ZGW, or extend to “related” to ZGW. * Scoping: Maybe not only limit to ZGW * Also other suppliers should be able to use it, implement and contribute * Follow the national API standards for case-oriented working (ZGW API’s) developed by VNG Realisatie * We are (among) the first users of the standards and we need to propose changes to the standards if needed. * As a mission: We are offering municipalities a solution for ZGW. * “Laagdrempelige” solution in both tech, documentation, service (desk) * Mission: Have a “golden-record” (one single truth) within the organization
4. Future features and roadmap
From the technical steering team:
* Post-installation configuration * i-Navigator (and others) support * Better Catalogus management interface * Improve archiving parameters integration * Implement password reset functionality * Provide selectielijst on NLX * Update the API versions * Add klantinteractie APIs (or not)
* Bring to core municipality group and get feedback
* Allow for “lokale verorderingen” (to the standard) * Fully implement Opschorten functionality * Implement a Search engine (Elasticsearch/SOLR)
* Bring to core municipality group and get feedback
Additions from the product steering team:
* No additonal items provided
Suggestion to decide on priority: https://www.scaledagileframework.com/wsjf/
What should we do with this list?
5. Evaluate governance/future agenda
* Nothing discussed due to time.
6. New or changing members
* Added Rita Berghuis, Delft - rberghuis@delft.nlmailto:rberghuis@delft.nl
7. Any other thoughts members want to bring in
* Next meeting: November 18, 2020 * For next agenda:
* Budget * Should we communicate back to the core group * What should we do with the roadmap items?
* Tahir will chair the next meeting
New actions Action Responsible Due date 1. Create Mission & Vision Draft on OpenZaak product Hugo November 18, 2020 2. Invite Delft Joeri November 18, 2020
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